This was part of the wonderful Marfa Dialogues presented by Ballroom Marfa at the Museum of Fine Art in Houston on March 26, 2016. Thanks so much to the whole Ballroom crew and in particular, Susan Sutton and Laura Copelin. You are so so so good.
You'll also hear Mandy Barker, whose photographs I was really really keen to talk about. I said they looked like the covers of some of the later Cocteau Twins albums (in particular Four Calendar Café), then she told me she'd worked for 4AD!!!
Then we played Rachel Rose's Sitting Feeding Sleeping, one of the most powerful ecological awareness films I've ever seen, ever.