tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1438289051411770399.post2236915826564586834..comments2024-03-28T09:51:55.365-06:00Comments on ECOLOGY WITHOUT NATURE: Emersonian ZuhandenheitTimothy Mortonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05067377804366363020noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1438289051411770399.post-10988012675242229842011-07-23T20:58:12.151-05:002011-07-23T20:58:12.151-05:00Gah. I forgot that I was going for a longer quotat...Gah. I forgot that I was going for a longer quotation. It continues:<br /><br /><br />"The chief sources of joy, shabbes and Torah, aren't part of this world, either. Traditional Jewish culture has everything but oylem haze, which means 'sensual pleasure' in Yiddish, the today for which hedonists live. Where the gentile world is an endless series of sequential 'nows', the Jewish world is nothing but 'thens', thens of the past and thens of the future: 'then we were . . . then we'll be . . . now we're nothing'."<br /><br />All of that is on page 195/196.Joe Clementhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07708351256024540229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1438289051411770399.post-14384365778251886892011-07-23T20:54:24.925-05:002011-07-23T20:54:24.925-05:00Reminds me of Michael Wex in "Born to Kvetch&...Reminds me of Michael Wex in "Born to Kvetch":<br /> <br />"Up until the Nazis, poverty, not anti-Semitism, was considered the most serious problem facing the Jews, and much, if not most, modern Yiddish culture developed in an environment of almost incomprehensible deprivation.<br /><br />Gentiles also live in poverty, they also have to worry about demons and evil spirits, but the world around them is the one they're meant to be in. Oylem Haze, 'this world', is their world. Religious Christians might see themselves as pilgrims on earth, sojourners waiting to die to go live with Jesus, but there's a big difference between a pilgrim and a refugee, even when both shlep along the same road. The Christian ideal is to be in this world, but not of it; the Jewish problem, the problem of the Jews in goles, is being of this world but still not in it. We eat, sleep, go to the toilet, and die. We pay taxes and serve in the army and do business, but we're shut out, excluded from all the usual sources of pleasure--we're on Turtle Island, and turtles are treyf."Joe Clementhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07708351256024540229noreply@blogger.com