tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1438289051411770399.post5900472910540412507..comments2024-03-25T08:59:38.714-06:00Comments on ECOLOGY WITHOUT NATURE: Rutgers Talk: Hyperobjects are PhasedTimothy Mortonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05067377804366363020noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1438289051411770399.post-48381777129346850642011-02-24T16:51:58.155-06:002011-02-24T16:51:58.155-06:00damn fine post Tim, and looks to be a reallyfascin...damn fine post Tim, and looks to be a reallyfascinating talk as well.<br /><br />The more I ponder hyperobjects the more I 'see' what you OOO-folk might be after here...<br /><br />As Robert wrote, "remnants of real objects" can be detected, i just think objects/assemblages can be said to be directly encountered as well, if only <i>partially</i> because of their structural ‘depth’ (as well as ours). Partial or refracted or opaque contact is still somewhat <i>direct</i>.Michael-https://www.blogger.com/profile/17137291506357159071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1438289051411770399.post-66363153335609614162011-02-24T13:34:05.758-06:002011-02-24T13:34:05.758-06:00It kind of links in with what Graham said, in so m...It kind of links in with what Graham said, in so much as, you can tell the remnants of real objects by simulations. <br /><br />As a rule, the better the simulation, the more the real object is anchored in reality. <br /><br />It also confirms my earlier riffs on encapsulation. Interfaces are relational necessity, not the playthings of computation.Robert Jacksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13714433087186290937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1438289051411770399.post-73572706456606027472011-02-24T10:06:50.573-06:002011-02-24T10:06:50.573-06:00There's a thin-ish paper that registers this s...There's a thin-ish paper that registers this same idea (if I understand your preview of Friday's paper right) by Don Ihde called "Whole Earth Measurements," or, (the title of the first section) HOW MANY PHENOMENOLOGISTS DOES IT TAKE TO DETECT A "GREENHOUSE EFFECT"? Of course your preaching to the choir if your choir is filled with designers. See the also-not-so-dense paper by Jorge Frascara, "Diagramming as a way of Thinking Ecologically" in Visible Language: http://visiblelanguagejournal.com/web/issues/issue/volume_35.2<br /><br />Cameroncamerontwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12576089029390603417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1438289051411770399.post-62530486736785760482011-02-24T03:46:51.431-06:002011-02-24T03:46:51.431-06:00Great post - how do you think this relates to a &#...Great post - how do you think this relates to a 'science of multiplicities' (or at least Delanda's line on multiplicities) or even Levi's topologically structured virtual-proper-being?<br /><br />Sorry, I'm in the middle of a PhD write up where OOO is wrenching me from a Deleuzian quagmire...Adam Parkinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04807432652138551852noreply@blogger.com